Smoother animation ≠ Better animation [4K 60FPS]

16 Pri 2021
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Trigger warning for loud sounds towards the end of the vid.
This was entirely edited, and was supposed to be exported, in 48fps, not 50. Funny thing is, Premiere simply doesn't allow custom frame rates in its export window, despite supporting it as a sequence setting. I could have exported the Premiere file into After Effects and added the sequence to the render cue, but I couldn't because AE threw me an error every time I tried. That, combined with the legitimately unbelievable amount of bugs and errors and crashes left me feeling so exhausted and numb that I ultimately decided it was worth sacrificing one 25th of a second's worth of timing here and there. If you catch any editing errors, that'd be why. Oh well!!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
1:27 - Laying the Groundwork
4:32 - Ad break
5:55 - Timing and Easing
9:52 - Smear Frames But Worse™
11:11 - Wrong Tool for the Wrong Job
13:58 - Outro
Animation used (in order of appearance):
Tom and Jerry
Pixel Art (various)
Cat walk (www.reddit.com/r/animation/comments/b0nkqs/cat_walk_cycle_done_for_college/)
Cowboy Bebop
Mulan
Persona 4
300FPS Bowser in cat suit
Spirit (Roughs by James Baxter)
Devilman Crybaby
A Cat in Paris
Wire by Worthikids
Spiderverse
DBZ Fighterz
ParaNorman
Spongebob
Daffodil 3 by Smallbu
Overwatch
Moonlight Fox by Smallbu
JoJo Part 5
XCOM 2
Cafouillage by Tom Law
PokeAwesome
Planet Panic
TMNT 'Don VS Ralph'
Klaus (Lineart by James Baxter)
El Dorado
Naruto
1Samurai Jack Season 5
Dead Leaves
Keep Your Hands off Eizouken
Meet Arnold (Cacani Demo)
'Float' by Pixar
Music used (in order of appearance):
Les Cafes De Paris - Joe E Lee
Apple Kid's Theme - Earthbound
Let the Game Begin! - SiIvaGunner
Noisy Notebook D - Snipperclips
Stage Clear - Wii Play Motion
Good Evening Bossa - Riverworn
Buy Something, Will Ya!? - Earthbound
Stamp Mode - Snipperclips
Apotos (Night) - Sonic Unleashed
Quilty Court - Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn
Just One More Night With You - Thiago
5PM - Animal Crossing New Leaf
Trophy Gallery - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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  • Fantastic rant, I love it! And you're absolutely right. I love how you underline the intent of the artist. Those who would seek to replace artists with machine learning and AI clearly don't understand what art is for. Replace stuff that people don't want to do, or can't do. But people get joy (and their livelihood) from creating art, and they want to do it. It's one of the things that make us human. I'm no Luddite, and I love using new tools to create my animation. But when it starts to encroach upon the fulfillment that I get from creating, then no thanks! You might argue that this is just interpolation and chill out. But my response to that is just wait, this is just getting started.

    James BaxterJames Baxter23 ditë më parë
    • @Misty Grue Nvm you're getting a 15% raise my guy. You're something special bro

      Aaron B.Aaron B.19 orë më parë
    • @Aaron B. oh, so u actually that stupid to take the side of random "artist" from this video who doesnt know sh*t about actual arts, instead of 99.9% ppl in the world? ignoring the fact that

      Misty GrueMisty Grue19 orë më parë
    • @Misty Grue if you ever get that position as a professional troll you deserve at least a 10% raise. You're fuckin good bro, you're goin places

      Aaron B.Aaron B.19 orë më parë
    • @Aaron B. nah, thats reality. im fkn tired of slideshows. i cant play consoles coz of 30 fps which are just static pictures for me. most of ppl cant see the difference between 40 and 50 fps due to low iq, for example, while high iq ppl can see the difference between 60 and 70 or 100 and 120 and so on. my eyes actually hurt when im watching something with less than 60 fps for too long coz it creates too much tension.

      Misty GrueMisty GrueDitë më parë
    • well said :)

      f001ishf001ishDitë më parë
  • The first result on youtube when you search for Kill La Kill's opening is a 60 fps monstrosity which floats all over the place and is nauseating to look at

    Eirik SundbyEirik Sundby24 minuta më parë
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOD I HATE MISUSED INTERPOLATION. Your video was very informative and I found it very enjoyable and I think you articulated yourself extremely well :)

    Eirik SundbyEirik Sundby26 minuta më parë
  • Maybe I got it wrong, but shouldn't "Animated on fours" be 6 FPS?

    EE27 minuta më parë
  • a n d i t i s s a v e y o u m o n e y ah yes, the is grammar

    FlopsicleFlopsicle57 minuta më parë
  • Only at the end you gave the best explanation Using DAIN is like using a jackhammer to wash your car

    Alexandru TănaseAlexandru TănaseOrë më parë
  • This is just amazing

    Nathan JosephNathan JosephOrë më parë
  • Wait so this whole video was just an ad for kakani?

    Lord DarringtonLord Darrington2 orë më parë
  • is there a comparison between AI interpolation and standard interpolation programs though?

    Youtube PizzerYoutube Pizzer2 orë më parë
  • I agree with most, but the “60 fps is bad” thing is bullshit.

    PixwoolPixwool2 orë më parë
  • 3:27 10:10 12:09 don’t mind this- im just saving these for a reference:)

    iamcamiiiamcamii2 orë më parë
  • hey please make the couch animation in 60fps. It is not smoothe enough

    DarthKuraDarthKura3 orë më parë
  • i agree

    stinky 666stinky 6663 orë më parë
  • damn the animation at the very end looks good :)

    JonhyfunJonhyfun3 orë më parë
  • I would say at least really wavy motions in animation do look beautiful in 60fps, intended or not

    \\Cheech Unlimited\\\\Cheech Unlimited\\3 orë më parë
  • ...Well thanks for balancing the audio at the end. Nothing like having a jumpkindascare before bed.

    3lit3gn0m33lit3gn0m33 orë më parë
  • I think enhanced animation is alot smother bút the fucking smearing and sometimes janky animation makes it absolute shit

    vo khangvo khang3 orë më parë
  • As a translator, I vibe with this video whenever someone asks me why I ask money for something Google Translate does for free.

    Melchior PhilipsMelchior Philips3 orë më parë
  • I used to keep wondering why anime isn't 60fps. Now 60fps anime just makes me want to puke

    BeefBeef3 orë më parë
  • Gonna upscale this to 300,000 fps brb

    Soviet OpSoviet Op3 orë më parë
  • totally agree basically 100% However, I've been working on my senior film and we have a lot of stopmo elements, frame-by-frame high-res CRISPY images and I've been running some select shots through RIFE using Flowframes and honestly it's a godsend to avoid reshoots and get a selection of smoother frames(heavily adjusted manually in AE using time remapping for the right timing)

    BrandyBuizelBrandyBuizel4 orë më parë
  • Just a toodly point, but reaching the intended audience probably isn't helped by shouting 'WE DON'T NEED 60FPS ANIMATIONS' because the same crowd is the one who has been shouted by games companies the exact same sentence, but going from 30->60fps the games are hugely improved. You might now say - 'but those two are completely different areas and have barely anything in common' and I say yes, but the sentences are the same and a subconscious link is formed. You've already made up your mind once, when you re-hear the phrase you'll instantly fall back on the earlier judgement and you put yourself clean against the whole 'remaining at 24fps' idea just by association.

    StormlordStormlord4 orë më parë
  • I see your points and I kinda agree that gamers care way too much about frame rates. In animation, I like the lower frame rates, and I was never really able to put into words why, but you did it for me I guess. In gaming, I do care about frame rate to an extent, but only for the reason that I am in control of something within the game usually a character, I need to have a smooth framerate so I can lead shots better, or accurately time a jump, or just to know that I didn't turn too far to the left or for the most part so my immersion isn't broken. Like if I'm watching an animated show and suddenly it goes from 24 fps, then drops to 2 fps when it doesn't make sense, I'm gonna think there's something wrong with the copy I have or with the stream I'm watching. When gaming I need to be consistent, and to be fair, that's all I need. having the max amount of frames possible isn't everything.

    ThunderkruxThunderkrux5 orë më parë
  • As a gamer im with this artsist dude

    Killer QueenKiller Queen5 orë më parë
  • im a gamer and i still consider that the ''enhancing'' animations thingy is like putting a lot of salt in a food thinking that itl make it taste better .-. it doesnt make it better if the food is allready perfect

    Alex și mai multeAlex și mai multe5 orë më parë
  • I agree with every thing he says here bc I'm a small animator myself lol

    Djmini YtDjmini Yt6 orë më parë
  • Ironically this video now has 5 million views.

    Zer0 Pyr0Zer0 Pyr06 orë më parë
  • I remember watching Sr Pelo's Spooky Month in 60 FPS and original is in like 3 or 4 FPS. Watching them speak or doing spooky dance was really weird, it was looking too smooth. And I can't believe that I said it...

    KemiuKemiu6 orë më parë
  • WoW tHe EnD fRaMeS wErE sO sMoOtH

    nickie Burkenickie Burke6 orë më parë
  • That was the best sponsor transition ever

    a very unenthusiastic lemona very unenthusiastic lemon6 orë më parë
  • Thank you

    CrackinatorCrackinator6 orë më parë
  • my 240hz monitor don´t like this, lol good video dude

    OcelotlOcelotl7 orë më parë
  • pooger

    VIOLET_WaffleVIOLET_Waffle7 orë më parë
  • 1:22 I felt that

    Dr. Dreidel •ドリーデル先生Dr. Dreidel •ドリーデル先生7 orë më parë
  • Glen Keane animated Duet at 60fps I feel like that should of been in this discussion.

    Kirk HodgesKirk Hodges7 orë më parë
  • I’ve been waiting for someone to cover this 😤

    JoshActiveJoshActive7 orë më parë
  • The last one exactly what will happen in the future if we too depending on computer AI. Even though some companies likes google, Microsoft, nvidia ... make agreement to not make an ai that can ruin humans lives, but not all companies get the invitation.

    danur rahmajatidanur rahmajati8 orë më parë
  • idc i just think it looks better :)

    FrazzledMangoMusicFrazzledMangoMusic8 orë më parë
  • this came out the day after my birth day

    AriesAries8 orë më parë
  • into the spiderverse is a great example of this If I'm not mistaken, the movie was shot (animated) with different fps and different held frames; and it is one of my favorite movies of all time

    Michael CostelloMichael Costello8 orë më parë
  • S o o n

    fPlobsfPlobs8 orë më parë
  • Honestly keep adding the "[4K 60FPS]" in the name of the videos just to spite the ALworld algorithm and get you the credit you deserve

    MithrilMithril9 orë më parë
  • Haaaaa that's expensive

    favour samuelfavour samuel9 orë më parë
  • Jesus, anyone else get the shit scared out of them at the end?

    KamishibaiyaKamishibaiya9 orë më parë
  • That explosion at the end actually made me jump lmao

    Zane ScootZane Scoot9 orë më parë
  • headphone warning at 14:07

    ALEXANDER ANDRÉS SHAILER MIRANDAALEXANDER ANDRÉS SHAILER MIRANDA9 orë më parë
  • 11:51 omg someone go find his eyebrown

    Dhonata BayerlDhonata Bayerl9 orë më parë
  • 14:01 Agagsd an judHNGAsbj gsa

    MorfulerMorfuler9 orë më parë
  • i keep seeing this shit "i'm not an animator, but i've noticed those weird frames in those 60fps animated animations!!!" like no shit sherlock you aren't special

    Sugashtai!Sugashtai!10 orë më parë
  • I'm a gamer and sort of an artist/animator and I hate these videos, they make things looks so weird

    Leg EaterLeg Eater10 orë më parë
  • 11:51 no it was more of a darkslide on my brain stem

    ArchieArchie10 orë më parë
  • Why do i care about artistic intent

    Joseph WilliamsJoseph Williams10 orë më parë
  • Animators are non fully replaceable by machines

    ArchieArchie10 orë më parë
  • *sad gamer noises*

    electriKal_ shoKelectriKal_ shoK10 orë më parë
  • love that he was interpolated when the robot broke in at the end

    g in garageg in garage11 orë më parë
  • Did you notice: the scene where the robot breaks through the wall was interpolated

    Tsukishima KeiTsukishima Kei11 orë më parë
  • IT'S ALWAYS GAMERS.

    Mitchel Thinks Trev is CoolMitchel Thinks Trev is Cool11 orë më parë
  • U are just lazy to draw extra 36 frames

    Follow another haynadeFollow another haynade11 orë më parë
    • @mGoat agreed, this guy missed the point so much he could be a stormtrooper

      0490493 orë më parë
    • You’re completely missing the point

      mGoatmGoat5 orë më parë
  • Excellent, I just discovered your channel, I really like how you animated your character, keep it up

    leo bertillotleo bertillot12 orë më parë
  • Also ever since I saw this vid a bit ago ive been able to see interpolation way more often and noticing how bad it is now

    Bread MilkBread Milk12 orë më parë
  • I've always hated it when people give that Naruto vs. Pain fight so much shit. Like of course it's gonna look like shit on a still frame, the entire point of smear frames and squash/stretch is to simulate motion. If you recorded someone getting slapped, then slowed it down and paused it, you'd literally see vibrations and muscle/skin contort and stretch. It's fine to say you thought it looked silly, it's another thing to say it's bad animation

    Apex GaleApex Gale12 orë më parë
  • A P P E A L Just making sure you don't forget that shot

    Lluc TorreguitartLluc Torreguitart12 orë më parë
  • Good video Ew jojo

    Booty BanditBooty Bandit12 orë më parë
  • The cat looked good..

    a namea name12 orë më parë
  • No one: Galaxy brain child: THIS ANIME LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER AT 60 FPS

    BongSlayerBongSlayer13 orë më parë
  • normal anime punch: HEEYA good punch 'better' anime punch: *light slap* meh

    Mel MooreMel Moore13 orë më parë
  • NetherRealm wanted to make the fatalities and fatal blows 30 fps to make them look more cinematic. Gamers: we are going to harass you nonstop til' you give us an option to make them 60 fps :)

    Juan Cruz CastañoJuan Cruz Castaño13 orë më parë
  • Waiting for someone to increase the fps in this

    Andrew FortierAndrew Fortier13 orë më parë
  • Ok like yea the ai isnt good and different frame rates can be used artistically but honestly these days even 60 looks like a slide show and yes smoother animation is better like he said when the artist intends it, honestly i cant enjoy shows or movies anymore because of the fact that i can count every individual frame, I see this 24 fps thing as a snobby traditionalist tactic, its like when musicians say "this is boring its not even in 7/8 with polyrythms and 12 note chords" i made every single film in my film class in 60 fps and the teacher called me out for it every time while the entire class complimented me on how smooth it was, if you like 24 fps thats fine but i know tons of people who dont like it but say "oh but all of these great film makers used it" and its like no you just want to render to not take as long

    Mitchel TurnerMitchel Turner13 orë më parë
  • This is basically the same thing as when clients put a shitty Instagram filter over professionally edited photos. It pains me so much.

    Joe KainradJoe Kainrad14 orë më parë
  • Idc I just think it looks better :)

    YO TENGO MANYO TENGO MAN14 orë më parë
    • That's it I'm getting me mallet

      RandomRandom14 orë më parë
  • 13:28 ok im sorry but i still think washing your car with a jackhammer looks pretty nice

    Kaleb VaitkeviciusKaleb Vaitkevicius14 orë më parë
  • This video undermines how impressive that AI actually is. Generating new information isn't trivial and some examples do look pretty good. But you are missing one fundamental point: It's just a tool. Sure if you have no intent and don't know how to use it, the result often looks worse. But if you know how and when to use it, it's actually pretty amazing. Being mad at this AI is like being mad at a hammer.

    RismoschRismosch14 orë më parë
  • 50fps, not 60, you liar >:v

    Pol VallsPol Valls15 orë më parë
  • smujujujuh

    PlantPlant15 orë më parë
  • Omg that honey transition and ad was the best I've ever seen

    CreepersTKOEDCreepersTKOED15 orë më parë
  • The ending scared the sh*t out of meeeeee lmao

    AlastorArtWorksAlastorArtWorks15 orë më parë
  • The quality: 50 FPS HAHAHAHA

    Reed’s Vids’Reed’s Vids’15 orë më parë
  • As an animator myself... I feel your pain.

    electromaniacalelectromaniacal15 orë më parë
  • HEY! im a gamer and i hate the 12 to 60 frames thingy, dont insult me, u little animated blob JK i luv ya

    AKA-KAKA-K16 orë më parë
  • the irony. he hit 5million views on this vid

    shee5-3elawishee5-3elawi16 orë më parë
  • I'm a gamer...But I am also a game designer. And nearing the end of my 5 year long course I have opened my eyes to EVERY LITTLE FUCKING DETAIL AND MISTAKE I CAN'T PLAY GAMES NORMALLY AGAIN! I tried learning animation and wanted to become a 3D animator. Alas, my lectuerer at the time dropped a big fucking book of the priniciples of animation on my desk and told me to read through it and write about it. I no longer wanted to become an animator. Basically, what I am saying in a roundabout way is, I am a gamer and I don't think 60fps animations is a must have in all animations. There are games that function REALLY WELL and uses the principles of animation to their advantage. If you were to slap on 60k frames on fucking z-fighters it would probably lose a good chunk of players.

    NantoriasNantorias16 orë më parë
  • Not to mention... 'Smart' TVs have been doing this for half a decade or more. Like you said, great for live sports, but it's usually on by default and I turn that crap off straight away. I don't want everything I watch to be a juddering, inconsistent mess!

    Naughty GooseNaughty Goose16 orë më parë
  • It's ironic how a 24fps converted to 60fps actually feels slower than the original.

    Logan LeeLogan Lee16 orë më parë
    • It's basically just making the animation slower by adding more frames, that's why the ai is usually used for sports to do slow mo's

      RandomRandom12 orë më parë
  • Hey nice video and I see your point but who cares in what fps people watch a story? Uuuu iPhone or Samsung? who cares? choose the one that you like more and go home. Remember when the stories had 0 fps? Fucking "text". This video changed my mood not my view on the topic.

    Dan OprisDan Opris16 orë më parë
  • I'm a gamer and I love more frames in my games and sports broadcasts, but when it comes to animation I know old school is prettier and appreciate older animation that was all done by hand very much.

    heroinpenguin666heroinpenguin66616 orë më parë
  • 9:24 thats nothing compedre to how much i put on my PAZTA!!

    Ossian WengelerOssian Wengeler16 orë më parë
  • no joke my sibling came in the room at the very in and went "woah! ItS sO smOOTH."

    im thatpersonim thatperson17 orë më parë
  • I guess there's some valid criticism, but this video is basically about a tool that makes your art more enjoyable to a different audience. I don't get it. Either you obsess over your animation to an unhealthy point where you are the only one who can do what you do, or you are running some form of damage control because you're afraid that people will start to demand animations to be in 60 FPS. Reminds me of the Ubisoft representative who came out and said that a game feels more "cinematic" in 30 FPS that it does in 60. I genuinely can't see why you are pissed at an opportunity for more people to enjoy your and others art. I feel you might be as proprietary as Disney or Nintendo with your work.

    KnoxlockKnoxlock17 orë më parë
    • @LunorZ Agreed. That's why i mentioned that he had some valid criticism, but when such hate evolves to the point where an artist figuratively/indirectly says: "No, you may only enjoy the art in the way I intended it to be enjoyed" it becomes a tad bit ridiculous.

      KnoxlockKnoxlock13 orë më parë
    • @Dario Flores Since those changes aren't classified as fair use, there should be no problem claiming videos or "ai-generated"-versions of your animations and if people start to complain you may actually realize there is a market for those kinds of animation and a gateway for the audience who enjoys animations best when they're in 60 fps.

      KnoxlockKnoxlock13 orë më parë
    • thats not the main problem, the REAL problem is the people taking already made work that took time and dedication and slapping it into the program and posting it on youtube for free views.

      Dario FloresDario Flores14 orë më parë
    • He says 1) AI doesn't understand the principals 2)That makes it jerkier and unnatural 3) it makes the timing worse and makes the images all blurry But... he does hate it TOO much

      LunorZLunorZ16 orë më parë
  • Cry about it

    Bruh ManBruh Man17 orë më parë
    • .-.

      -ABIC--ABIC-16 orë më parë
  • In my film class, we learn why is commonly used 24 FPS in a lot of movies that are not animated, because giving it more starts to feel unrealistic, and if it’s an action movie you start to see the fake parts of the action and it ruins your experience. That’s why 60 fps is commonly used now in video games intended for it. The majority of action games where you move the camera clearly benefits from it, same for some fighting games where the “meta people” dedicates a lot of time for counting the FPS hit box counting, that’s what makes certain characters beginner friendly than others.

    Angelo HjulskovAngelo Hjulskov17 orë më parë
  • Ahhhh quality content at its finest. Thank you :) My day has been made and my serotonin is imessurable

    Juan DuranJuan Duran18 orë më parë
  • 4:33 is the most relatable thing ive seen

    redviper57redviper5718 orë më parë
  • "5 Million views"

    TERMIN XTERMIN X18 orë më parë
  • they "enhanced" norio matsumoto. unforgivable

    W e i r d o e x eW e i r d o e x e18 orë më parë
  • 4:08

    Juan DuranJuan Duran18 orë më parë
  • JESUS FUCK YOUR FUCKING ROBOT AT THE END SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME

    Max WelfriceMax Welfrice18 orë më parë
  • Step 1 - Click -> 4:09 Step 2 - Immediately Pause! Step 3 - Cry

    AshAsh18 orë më parë
    • 4k noodle

      RandomRandom12 orë më parë
    • F*** you, you got my like

      LunorZLunorZ16 orë më parë
  • 13:10 me who is a gamer who doesn't give a flying fuck about frame rate: I don't have such weaknesses

    comic sanscomic sans18 orë më parë
  • I did notice the interpolation lmfao, you went slidy

    Dungeons and Dragons and Drive ThroughsDungeons and Dragons and Drive Throughs18 orë më parë
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